fear of public confusion

PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:05 am
by LordCrimson
This place has been actually always open for submission, but never seriously advertised because of the fear of public confusion.

As you all well know, mates, this place has existed for 1 year, and we have been under several attacks, with several attempts for putting down the project.

Now we have Giano as primary defense line, and its LOGs grow weekly, with a so suspicious constant rate that we're wondering why we are getting attacked in an organized fashion.

Who, or what is behind attacks?

We are not trying to start an online marketplace. We are not a potential competition for eBay and Amazon. We are trying to start an online-thing for hobbyists, and it's a kind of *free* thing, and it's my hypothesis about why so much hostility that this *free* characteristic might have caused public confusion, even for those who probably want to put the website in the list of enemies of the Globalist of something.

down the rabbit hole

PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 5:15 am
by madame
LordCrimson wrote:Who, or what is behind attacks?


probably someone who gets angry because - a group of rebel red pills down the rabbit hole - doesn't accept that the world is that far gone, full of secret societies, cults, and worldwide conspiracies, where everything must be jew-controlled :asd:

a group of rebel red pills down the rabbit hole

PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:12 am
by ivelegacy
madame wrote:a group of rebel red pills down the rabbit hole


That's our wonderland, and we also have a colored icon for this :say-pirate:

a group of rebel red pills down the rabbit hole

PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 6:51 am
by madame
ivelegacy wrote:That's our wonderland, and we also have a colored icon for this :say-pirate:


:rofl:

l33t speak h4ck3r!

PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:52 am
by LordCrimson
During the early 80s and 90s, hackers that didn't want their websites to be picked up in a simple keyword search began using numbers to replace certain letters.

[..] A lot of your choices on how to represent your project to the public seem driven by wanting to appear "l33t" or whatever, rather than by wanting to build a useful platform [..] concerning the idiosyncratic nomenclature etc, from the domain name to title logo, etc [..] it seems driven by wanting to appear like an inside joke, all a jargon and metaphors filled mess [..]


Ironically - the being picked up - is exactly what we don't want, because it attracts a lot of spambots :say-sticazzi:

So we might appear l33t, but when someone comments like in the above sentence, and people do agree, then you realize the l33t is relatively unknown to the Internet masses at this point; a subculture that is disappeared from gaming-things entirely, or, worse still, deliberately killed and replaced with mechanisms for promoting public confusion, which leads to conspiracy theories and public fear, which in turn leads to attacks.

l33t speak h4ck3r!

PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:42 pm
by TheHalloween
LordCrimson wrote:a subculture that is disappeared from gaming-things entirely


Nowadays the l33t should sound a good antiformalistic h4x0rz thing, but I am afraid it rather looks like a n00bs joke because not conforming to anything experimented by those who are all locked away in their Facebook accounts, busy on Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, Reddit, Discord, and Amazon.

Google pushes to phone only. Unless you are willing to do some major redesigns, DTB doesn't fit in a smartphone's LCD, so it's weird, and the web server doesn't offer any HTTPs connection, so it's unsafe. Hence when they see the Harlock flag in the left corner and they have to scroll the screen to read something, they quickly close the browser window on the smartphone, hoping that they did not contract some trojan infection.

:pazzia:

l33t speak h4ck3r!

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:23 am
by madame
TheHalloween wrote:the l33t should sound a good antiformalistic h4x0rz thing


so we are an elite of nonconformists against all the modern technology :asd:

any scientific reason?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:18 am
by ivelegacy


I guess there is a scientific reason why the counter always gets less than 50% of agreements.
Still dunno - which? - is the reason, but DTB has a colored icon even for this :say-think-different:

any scientific reason?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 8:34 am
by madame
ivelegacy wrote:DTB has a colored icon even for this :say-think-different:


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

any scientific reason?

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:09 am
by LordCrimson
TheHalloween wrote:Google pushes to phone only.


Good point, maybe it's *THE* most relevant scientific reason :asd:

Most users do not browse any old-school website on a phone because it's an awful experience on such tiny keys or whatever they are called on phones nowadays.

Google is that much of a monopoly, and it long abandoned its "don't be evil" when the original founder left. Now it's telling people that "HTTP" is unsafe, discouraging a lot of people unless they obtain approval, and if you don't go through Google you have absolutely zero chance of being seen.

Google has no love for l33t speak h4ck3r!

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:49 am
by TheHook
Google blocks Websites talking about hacks to obtain an unfair advantage in videoGames. Someone justified it telling that such underground websites are usually infested by trojan and malware, someone in the Google Staff also commented that usually people who type in "1337 speak" are illiterate, and whatever was the reason, filters now grab patterns like "H4x", "l33t", "1337 H4x0r" to block pages.




I do find the new logo hilarious, I know it's a provocation, and it's too funny :ahahah:

(well done, TheHalloween!)

L337

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 12:46 pm
by Nonefornow
And I would have thought that since L337 went mainstream with the Han Solo movie, leetspeak would gain some more grounds.

L337

PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2019 2:06 pm
by madame
Nonefornow wrote:And I would have thought that since L337 went mainstream with the Han Solo movie, leetspeak would gain some more grounds.


Yet another coincidence :asd:

The whole Star Wars epic space opera plays in a galaxy that’s supposed to be a long time ago and far far away from our Earth planet, but the droid’s name is really L3-37, a reference to replacing letters with numbers in hacker "leet-speak" with "L337" meaning "Leet" as in "Elite", representative of the 90s American geek aesthetic.

That could just be a couple of coincidences, but if so, it's a pretty darn cool couple of coincidences :asd:

by removing the word "marketplace" attacks fall

PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 8:42 am
by LordCrimson


Five days ago we removed the keyword "marketplace" from the site description, and attacks suddenly dropped by 50% like if there was some kind of auto-attack system operating on the internet that is no more trigged on a keyword.

This is as interesting as weird.

a weird domain ext must be part of some online hoax

PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:05 am
by LordCrimson


Out of all the domain name extensions, dot xyz is a not recognizable and weird domain extension. It was offered for cheap one year ago, and this was the only reason why purchased it.

One year is gone, and we collected a lot of comments made by people who think that a website with a weird domain extension must be part of some online hoax or something, similar to the "cicada 3306" or whatabout.

Yesterday we contacted a new domain-provider for a new domain, and out of all the domain name extensions, we basically had two choices: { dot com, dot org }

The dot com is the most popular and the most recognizable. It’s the domain extension most people default to, which makes it the best choice for offline marketing, such as billboards, print advertisements and other types of offline promotions; the dot org domain extension is most often associated with non-profit organizations. This means, if you choose this type of domain extension for your business, you may run into the issue of some visitors thinking you’re a non-profit organization.

DTB is a non-profit website, so dot org would be the most appropriate; however, yesterday we chose and bought the domain downthebunker dot com because it's cheaper and provided with more defensive options.

Dot xyz will expire in May, and DTB is now dot com :sai-io-c-ero:

DTB

PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:38 am
by Nonefornow
Down The Bunker = DTB.XXX.

I am just saying.

The tech-savvy said - no good for smartphones!

PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:30 am
by ivelegacy
The tech-savvy said - "a website like DTB is not optimized for smartphones, buttons are too small, and without HTTPs, wireless devices see a red lock in the browser"".

TheHalloween was really right, and this is worrying :asd:

"is it a sort of bomb shelter?"

PostPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 6:59 pm
by madame
judging by the last two received messages on MessageWall ...
... someone is still afraid that DTB is a sort of bomb shelter

:rofl:

attacks fall by shutting down the ftp server

PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:34 pm
by LordCrimson
One week ago we shutted down the ftp server and attacks suddenly dropped by 20% like if there was some someone interested in grabbing even files behind the ftp.

This is as interesting as weird, and IPs were from China and Russia :say-sticazzi:

underground influencers?

PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:36 pm
by madame
Someone has just asked in MessageWall - Real artists don't starve. Has the Influencer marketing already emerged from the down ground bunker?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

As the answer to tackling this problem, influence marketing facilitates specific brands to sell their products and services via their endorsement by social media platforms users with extremely big fellowship, established reputation and trust with their audience.

I had thought perhaps a button somewhere for asking people to donate chocolates and candies, but perhaps we should really open a page on Facebook and start affiliations with companies :asd:

can you guarantee, in the next 10 years?

PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2019 4:23 pm
by LordCrimson
Now we know someone doesn't look at external websites for this reason.
can you guarantee, that your information on your website will be available in the next 10 years?
No, we can't guarantee anything, except that some information won't make even sense in the next 10 years :say-sticazzi:

can you guarantee, in the next 10 years?

PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 5:59 am
by TheHalloween
send the write up to a magazine or newspaper for publishing so it will be archived in libraries forever.

:uc-waves:

can you guarantee, in the next 10 years?

PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2019 11:28 am
by madame
TheHalloween wrote:send the write up to a magazine or newspaper for publishing so it will be archived in libraries forever.


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Well, I bet that the person who posted that on the wall was someone from a disappeared club. So it might make sense.

an example of disappeared club: Nekochan!
Launched in the early 2000s the Nekochan platform attracted a substantial following over the following two decades and developed into the premiere hobbyist community which became the de facto documenting reference for the many hardware and software peculiarities, making them accessible to hobbyists without commercial service. The web site was self-hosted via a home DSL connection creating ongoing hardware maintenance and expense concerns, for which users helped with voluntary money donations. When Nekonoko's interest in SGI computers waned ... On May 20th, 2018, the Nekochan site abruptly disappeared from the Internet, without any notice to the remaining community members and without any attempt to provide an archival of the wealth of information that the community had accumulated.

There was a single Twitter post by Nekonoko claimed the site was taken down to concerns with the European Union's General Data Protection Regulation, but it is more likely that maintaining the site and dealing with the occasional recalcitrant user simply became an unwanted burden.


sort of Facebook for geeks and nerds?

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 7:41 am
by LordCrimson
MessageWall reports a new question: "is this place a sort of Facebook for geeks and nerds so the world's retro computer fans can have a place to gather every single day?"

Probably geeks prefer being a user on a social as well as nerds prefer being a user on a mailing list, anyway, at Mark Zuckerberg's, they boast more than two billion users globally. DTB has fewer users than fingers in a human hand, but it's basically based on the same kind of connectivity that adds the value, what economics call network externality.

DTB is here for us, and only a certain kind of people want to join us to help with our projects, and it's valuable regardless of the number of users. So the difference with Social networks is that they are more valuable the more people there are who use it.

A series of auctions revealed that Facebook users value the company's service so highly that it would take on average more than 1000 USD to convince them to deactivate their accounts for a year. This doesn't mean much for the company's stock market valuation, but it's a good indicator that people find value in Facebook regardless of the many concerns raised recently, and it clearly demonstrates that the value you place on something isn't what you pay for it. It's what you would be willing to pay.

sort of Facebook for geeks and nerds?

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2019 5:35 pm
by madame
When people look at DTB, they don't look at a value to society like when they look at Facebook. When our team looks at DTB, we look at a value to our team, but in both cases, it's not something you can easily measure in dollars and cents, and both cases are a very different metric from a stock market valuation.

So, from this point of view, we are the same as a kind of Facebook for nerds or geeks :asd:

sort of Facebook for geeks and nerds?

PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 9:33 pm
by TheHook
Weird that the doubt was not "sort of Facebook for l33t?"
The previous doubt must have been clarified.

It's all that really matters :say-loool: